Independent Patriots for America

2008 – The Year To Vote For A Third Party Candidate.

The argument against voting for a third party candidate seems to be,  “if you vote for a third party candidate for President you will throw the election to either the democrat or republican candidate”.   That argument in November 2008 election is not valid because it matters not whether McCain or Obama is elected…neither one meets the test.

On the surface there are some differences between Obama and McCain…or are there really any significant differences?

Obama supports abortion, partial birth abortion, homosexual rights, same sex marriage, has no energy solution, is waffling on the Iraq war, supports illegal alien citizenship, weak on border security, and is as far left as possible.

McCain seems to be against abortion but says he wouldn’t seek a change in Roe v Wade, cozies up to homosexual community, against a one man/one woman marriage amendment, has no energy solution, supports the Iraq war, visits with La Raza, supporters of illegal alien citizenship, weak on border security, and supports conservative and some liberal positions.

There are some other minor differences between Obama and McCain but what I hear most as a reason to support McCain is the likely US Supreme Court appointment possibility and the Iraq war.  Both arguments are moot for these reasons.

McCain would not be allowed to appoint a conservative Supreme Court justice in the vein of Scalia, Thomas, Alito, Roberts…the US Senate, Democrats in the majority, would not support it, won’t happen.   The best McCain could hope for is nominating a left-leaning centrist that would survive Senate confirmation.  Obama as President would not change the makeup of the US Supreme Court…if there is a vacancy, it will in all probability be one of the liberal jstices.  Obama will simply appoint another liberal justice not far removed from the one McCain would have to appoint.  Who knows, Obama could appoint a justice that would pull a Souter or Kennedy in reverse?

Remember Republican Presidents appointed recent Supreme Court Justices Souter(Bush 41) a flaming liberal, Kennedy(Reagan) much like McCain, never know where he is coming from, and Sandra Day O’Connor(Reagan), another question mark.  So the argument that McCain would change the makeup of the US Supreme court and tilt it to the right does not meet a reality test.

The argument that an Obama Presidency would jeopardize Iraq success, result in a ill-conceived troop pullout is weak.  Obama is moving toward a reevaluation of his Iraq position favoring a planned, studied approach, and favoring moving troops to Afghanistan.  We’ll learn more of Obama’s Iraq policy after he visits the troops and surveys at ground level.  I suspect he will disappoint his far-left supporters which could cause serious fallout, not that he wants to move to the center but he knows he must.  In essence, there is likely to be little difference between McCain and Obama as we draw closer to November…certainly no devastating premature Iraq pullout.

There is also another variable that sticks in my craw and that’s the performance of Republicans that resulted in their 2006 election rout.  The Republican party abandoned it’s principles during 2000 – 2006 falling into the big government, spending frenzy which cost them the House and Senate in 2006…they deserved to get waxed.   They now must prove receipt of a message…we don’t trust them, nor the Democrats for that matter.

In 1992 we had an incumbent President, George HW Bush, William Clinton, and Ross Perot running for President. Thousands of voters used the excuse “if I vote for Perot I’ll be electing Clinton” so I must vote for Bush.  I’ll tell you, if all the people that said they would vote for Perot, if they thought he could win, would have voted for Perot, he would have won.

During the 92 elections there was a reasonable choice and the third party candidate pulled nearly 20% of the American vote.  George HW Bush violated his pledge “read my lips, no new taxes” by signing a tax bill…America punished him.

The 2008 election gives us no clear choice of candidates…we don’t need to feel guilty about voting for a third party candidate.   Again, if all the people that are of the opinion that a vote for a third party candidate will elect Obama do indeed vote for a third party candidate, the 20% Ross Perot garnered could be 35 or 40 %.

For all “Americans” that are disgusted with the two major party apparatus using us as pawns in their presidential political games, it’s time to send a message.  We won’t send them any money, we will openly oppose them, and at the ballot box we’ll vote for a third party candidate at the Presidential level.

Right now the only third party candidates I’m aware of are Chuck Baldwin, Constitution Party http://www.constitutionparty.com/ ; Bob Barr, Libertarian Party http://www.lp.org/ .   Read their platforms.  I’m supporting Chuck Baldwin. Listen to his acceptance speech.  Hear another option.  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5808710975074355086&hl=en

Voting for a Senator or Representative should be for the best choice, leaning toward throwing out the incumbent.

That’s the way I see it folks……you may view me as losing it but I’ve had enough of the incestuous two party monopoly that is punishing America.

Harry Riley, COL, USA, Ret

http://www.usawakeup.org

Friends,
 
What, in the name of common-sense, is going on in Florida’s legal system?  For that matter what is going on with America’s approach to justice?
 
Some examples…yesterday a 10 year old in Florida was arrested by police, placed in a juvenile facility, because she was using a steak knife to cut her meat that she brought to school in her lunch.  Now one can argue the meat should have been cut at home, but given she was displaying no intent to do anything but cut her meat at lunch, why would a teacher call the police rather than confiscating the knife, calling her parents, and using the situation as a reasonable learning experience, not only for the young girl, but the entire school?
 
In Destin, Florida, a man was convicted and given a life sentence without parole because he loaned his car to a friend who, with some others, committed a robbery which resulted in a homicide.  The owner of the car was not involved, knew nothing about the crime, but was convicted along with those that committed the crime because his car transported the individuals to the crime scene.
 
I don’t have to rehash the DA Nifong criminal and wrongful prosecution debacle of Duke University lacrosse players which Nifong used as a political reelection tactic.
 
Consider border agents Ramos and Compean…convicted and sentenced to 10+ years for shooting an illegal alien drug smuggler who lied on the witness stand against the border agents…a prosecutor who knew the illegal alien was lying, but for political gain used the false testimony to convict two border agents protecting America.
 
National Security Adviser to the Clinton Administration, Sandy Berger pleaded guilty to pilfering highly  classified documents from the National Archives, saying he showed “very poor judgment” and that his actions were “wrong.”  What’s his sentence?  A fine, some community service, and barred from the National Archives.  Berger was later selected to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign staff as an adviser which appears more painful than the theft sentence.
 
None of this meets the common-sense test…worse yet it demonstrates a legal system that is broken, focused on numbers of convictions, arrests, but without the underlying principle of “justice”.
 
To take this issue one gigantic step further, consider the “illegal alien” fiasco.  The American legal system is replete with laws on the books to control our borders, prosecute those that violate immigration policy, and protect our sovereignty. 
 
Given the Florida example of the Destin man who knew nothing about a crime being committed but was convicted, what does this say about the United States Congress, and all  other officials who know crimes associated with illegal aliens are being committed, and take an oath,
 
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.
 
Yet, from top to bottom,  our officials who know without any doubt,  that illegal aliens are breaking American laws, are pouring across America’s borders, employers are hiring them, these aliens are bankrupting our medical facilities, overcrowding our schools, creating hazards on the highways, depleting social services designed for Americans, destroying unity and assimilation principles in America, a major ingredient in crime and prison population, a potential funnel for Islamic terrorists,  yet Congress plays political games, ignoring the criminal activity and threat to America’s sovereignty for political advantage. 
 
Doesn’t it follow that the United States Congress, given they are fully aware of crime associated and being committed by illegal aliens and take no meaningful action,  be prosecuted by the United States Justice Department for violating their Congressional oath?  A Florida man can be convicted for a crime he knew nothing about, but the US Congress can perpetuate an ongoing crime and not be held accountable?
 
The point seems to be made without going into issues such as, politicians abandoning warriors in battle, givng aid and comfort to the enemy, thirty some US Senators voting against English as our official language two years in a row(four of them presidential candidates), our moral rudder is considered obsolete and “political incorrect”, we have to define marriage, smut rules, God and prayer is attacked, we must establish forts as homes, on and on.
 
Friends, America is about a half-step from chaos…our nation is disintegrating and destructing from the inside.  We are being herded as sheep to the slaughter by wolves rather than being protected by a faithful shepherd.
 
While our gallant warriors sacrifice to protect our freedom from without, they cannot save us from the cancer within. 

We need to stand-up on the homefront and take back America.
 
Harry Riley, COL, USA, Ret

AMERICA IS IMPLODING…WILL IT BE ALLOWED?

The future of America grows exceedingly worrisome to me.  Oh, it’s not my life in America’s future I worry about as I know I’ll be in a mansion the Lord has prepared for me in a few years.  It’s the America my children and grandchildren and their children will be a part of that leaves me terrified over America’s disintegration, petrified of what my posterity will face, and enraged that I have been a part in allowing the cesspool in America to develop.

America’s potential is fast becoming the armpit of everything detestable…we have been attacked on the mainland, our sovereignty is in jeopardy, our Constitution is being whittled away, and our world reputation has been tarnished.  Men marrying men, women marrying women, pornographic filth the norm and in the streets, kids killing kids, killing babies exiting the birth canal, a nation of laws becoming a nation of illegals,  innocent is guilty and guilty is innocent, world domination of our economy and currency, and leadership in America using every kind of dishonest tactic for personal gain.  Politicians reduce themselves to sniveling, lying, disgraceful “say anything, do anything” to satisfy their selfish insatiable goals.  Integrity, honesty, responsibility, faithfulness and commitment are all principles of the past.

Where has faith in God, courage, strength, unity, face any task, conquer any challenge in the cause of freedom, family and America gone?

We must arm to the teeth to protect our homes, gangs run rampant reminiscent of the old west, laws must be passed so we can kill those trying to kill us and our families, law enforcement has been neutered to the point it is ineffective and no longer trusted, legal teams are bending and distorting the very Constitution designed to keep us free as their means to destroy America.  Border guards are incarcerated based on the testimony of a drug running criminal, caught in the act of illegally entering our country with drugs earmarked for our children and a politically motivated and connected prosecutor and pardon from the President is more important to a Thanksgiving Turkey than correcting the injustice to our border guards. Managed immigration is no longer “politically correct” in an America being pushed toward socialism. Illegal aliens sap our medical facilities, over-crowd our schools, deplete and overrun social services, threaten highway safety, kill, rape, and fill American prisons.  Politicians ignore American immigration laws and traditions in favor of supporting illegals in hopes of a vote.

America’s warriors are sent off to bleed and die, families suffer, without any commitment by our nation to support them and win.  Politicians betray our military, haggle over funding; send messages of defeat, all in the cause of a political party gaining traction over the other at the expense of our warriors and their families.  It seems the more we help the oil rich countries, the higher the prices at the pumps…what do our leaders say or do?  Nothing…a lot of blood and lives sacrificed…the more America gives the greater our pain…go figure.

Anti-America rabble roam the streets from border to border intent on destroying a freedom over 200 years of sacrifice ensured, demeaning our warriors, using the shrill voice of deceit, deception and distortion to persuade a gullible, vote hungry Congress to surrender to a barbaric Islamic enemy that will dwarf the Cambodian slaughter which is a direct result of the Viet Nam congressional surrender.

The condition today in America appears primarily the result of citizens of two generations……..mine and the WWII generation.  After World War II America went to sleep and the cancer of immorality, greed, let someone else do it, and a general national withdrawal raised it’s ugly head and is rapidly taking America into the abyss.

These thoughts, what some will call negative, has only touched the surface of the ills facing America.  Who would have ever thought a United States Senate leader would make a public statement calling our warriors defeated while still in battle fighting for their lives?  Just one example of many that should result in a charge of treason.  There’s no courage, politicians are afraid of the vocal minority who only want America destroyed.  And the crop of presidential candidates…other than one or two, don’t you just want to puke?

Will the guts and voice n America rise up and overpower the corporations, big money and globalist enemies to save America? There has been a hint of a small uprising in the cause of patriotism, warrior support, illegal alien rejection, and surrender opposition in 2007. The whimper must become a roar in 2008 that will reverse the disgusting anti-America movement and replace selfish, personal focused politicians with leaders that are concentrated on America’s security, it’s people, and restoration of the moral high ground.

We can listen to the politicians or use our common sense…I ask you in all seriousness…as a whole, would America be for the better or worse if the voters totally replaced all 535 current members of Congress with new faces?  We have the power, numbers to hit the streets, town halls, and the secret box to shake up America…the secret box is called a “ballot box.”  Will we rise up?  It may be too late for our grandchildren if we don’t.

Harry Riley, COL, USA, Ret.,  hmriley@cox.net

July 03, 2007

President George Bush

Dear Mr. President,

The arrogance of political authority has once again demonstrated special favors for political operatives while allowing citizens guarding our nation to be ignored.

With the commuting relative to Mr. Libby’s sentence comes considerable disappointment that you did not include our imprisoned border guards in pardon action. The one thing Mr. Libby has in common with border guards Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean is they were all treated as political pawns, sacrificed on the alter of political advantage…

Justice is nearly always included in your speeches Mr. President…how can you pardon “Scooter” Libby and allow the conviction of border guards Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean to stand? What about their families? What about their suffering? Where is justice here Mr. President?

While accomplishing the sacrificial work of the American border guard service, the pair have been betrayed as sacrificial lambs in a United States of America that is getting harder to recognize. Where is justice?

Favoring an illegal alien drug smuggler over our professional American Border Guards flies in the face of the justice you proclaim. Where is this justice?

In the act of incarcerating its own border guards, America seems to have lost not only its way, but also its very soul if we let this border guard conviction injustice stand.

The messages you are sending to America Mr. President is being received as confused, incompetent, detached, out of touch, and simply detrimental to America.

We need a leader Mr. President…….you have given us ample evidence of cronyism…what a sad commentary on the eve of our National Birthday.

Congress has scored a record low poll approval rating of just 14% - the lowest ever recorded in the Gallup Poll’s history.   Congratulations Senators and Representatives…based on your performance, particularly on the Illegal Alien issue, you are nearing the true low standard America really views Congress…in a word, shameful.
 
I would be remiss by failing to note that President Bush’s approval with America is not much better…lower than ever with a rousing 24% I believe.
 
This low satisfaction level America has of Congress is not difficult to understand after watching the US Senate in action today working on the Energy Bill legislation. 
 
I will cite two examples:  At the conclusion of a vote on an amendment to the Energy bill today, the majority leader, Senator Reid took the floor and announced he had important information…I assumed he was ready to remark on the Energy legislation….no,  Senator Reid announced that Senator Lautenberg, D-NJ vote on the last amendment made Senator Lautenberg the holder of a title:  Most votes in the US Senate of any US Senator from New Jersey, ever…Reid went on and on for ten minutes praising the wonderful, incomparable Senator Lautenberg as if the Energy legislation was completed.  If this wasn’t disgusting enough, after another amendment vote, Senator Reid again took the floor and indicated he had a major announcement?  Energy legislation?  Nope, this time he announced that Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia had just recorded his 18,000th vote in the US Senate…….another ten minute rambling, gushing, mumbling account of how wonderful Senator Byrd represented his home State of West Virginia…Reid didn’t mention Senator Byrd’s past membership as a Ku Klux Klan leader…
 
My observation is that America is being totally misrepresented, abandoned, and betrayed by the US Senate.  The Senate leadership of both Republican and Democratic parties has convinced America, 86% of us, that they are a bumbling lot, just about able to walk and chew gum at the same time…it is absolutely discouraging, painful, and approaching hopelessness that anything but devastating pain for America will come out of the US Congress.
 
The Immigration Bill will be up again soon, same song, same tune…Are there levels of common sense?  If so, I believe “closing the border, turning off the faucet as the first step” is just about simple enough for anyone to understand…except maybe Congress.  Unfortunately, we can expect the Reid, McConnell, Kennedy, Kyl, McCain, Lott, Graham gaggle to be pushing as hard as possible to provide illegal aliens a gift of amnesty.  We have some strong support opposing the bill in Senators Sessions, Vitter, Dorgan, McCaskill, DeMint…at least they were influential in the last showdown.
 
With 86% of America telling Congress they are off course, way off course, they just don’t get it…at least they won’t admit nor reflect in their actions they get it…does they sound like a “of the people, by the people, for the people” body?  The US Senate is reflecting an attitude more akin to regimes and enemies around the world we have been fighting for decades because of adversary unwillingness to allow constituents a vote, assuming absolute power.
 
The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) was launched in March of 2005;  North American Union…Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin, Mexico’s President Vincente Fox, U.S. President George W. Bush, held a joint news conference at Baylor University in Waco, Texas,  March 23, 2005 discussing the North American Union, NAFTA Super Highway, from Mexico straight through the middle of America all the way to Canada…open borders.  All this stuff being carried out in quasi secret, international agreements being made without consent of the governed…the US Senate Immigration effort to open, not close American borders is in support of these agreements that have never had a Congressional Committee hold the first hearing…America as we know it…a sovereign and free nation will be lost forever if the Bush Administration and Congress have their way.
 
President Bush and the US Congress is selling out America, ignoring tried and true principles of governing that has made America the envy of the civilized world, and both the Administrative and Legislative Branches of government has taken on the attitude and reflection of power unto themselves, not of the people.
 
“So through the night rode Paul Revere;
And so through the night went his cry of alarm
To every Middlesex village and farm,—
A cry of defiance, and not of fear,
A voice in the darkness, a knock at the door,
And a word that shall echo for evermore!
For, borne on the night-wind of the Past,
Through all our history, to the last,
In the hour of darkness and peril and need,
The people will waken and listen to hear
The hurrying hoof-beats of that steed,
And the midnight message of Paul Revere”
 
 
Where do we stand my friends?  We need to do some serious soul searching as America approaches a darkening future.  As for me  NO MORE AMNESTY, NO DISGUISED SNEAKY SMALL PRINT, NOT NOW, NOT EVER.
 
God bless America, our warriors who battle for our freedom while Washington D.C. leadership do their best to surrender.

Bob

I forget who in our circle may have suggested recently that we citizens should rise up as our forefathers did, overthrow our current corrupt masters(congress) as we did England, write a new declaration of independence and a new constitution and start over.

Oversimplified for sure but otherwise a course of action. The obstacle here is that our corrupt masters were all elected by the citizens from the various states. There is no short term solution but it seems to me that the long term strategy should be to eliminate corrupt congress members by turning them over often with short tenure. The only way to change their tenure is to change the constitution.

There are two ways to amend the Constitution: 1.  Congress can initiate an amendment (not likely) or 2. the Governors of the various states can initiate an amendment (possible but tough)

So why don’t you put your energy into the goal of amending the constitution to limit tenure of members of congress?

Childers, MG, USA, Ret

What ever we do to save this great Republic, must be done without undue delay.  The Globalist movement, that started before any of us were born, has now reached a point that our Republic is nearly lost.

The re-taking of our government must start at State Level and since we now answer to Corporate America, that got it’s beginning with the Ratification of the 14th amendment, that many say was illegally ratified (Southern States Occupied by the Union), could be one avenue to examine.

In any case, as the General mentioned, we can not expect the present make up of Congress to cooperate, they have proven themselves to be our enemy.  The People must become true patriots, willing to make any sacrifice as our Forefathers did, if we expect to remain free and in control of our own Government and our destiny.

A start is to agree that the problem exists and that failure to correct it will be the demise of our Republic and freedom.  Next we must become an over whelming majority of Independent American Patriots and Demand that our State act on our behalf, and we must act individually, by placing our own Independent Patriot’s in every possible elected Office.

We read every day about proven leaders trying to become a member of Congress, a State Representative, a Governor, a Commissioner, a Mayor and even the President.  The problem is, they must comply with election laws, that makes it nearly impossible for an Independent to be elected.  If we refuse to be a Registered member of a Political Party and become that overwhelming Majority of Independent’s, we can force changes that will once again, give true Independent Patriot’s a chance to Govern for the People.

General Childress alluded to “Our Circle”, in his remarks.  If you wish to be included in that Bcc e-mail list of Patriots for America, let me know robert0931@comcast.net and your name will be added to the list.  In the mean time, look at every Link in www.independent-patriots-for-america.com then decide if your Freedom is worth your action.  Become part of the Independent-Patriots-For America, to take back our Government and keep America the Home of the Brave and the Land of the Free.

Bob Thompson
Panama City, Florida   robert0931@comcast.net

So amnesty opposition is getting to the good Senator from Mississippi….according to Senator Lott  “TALK RADIO IS RUNNING AMERICA. WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT PROBLEM”…..Lott thinks American’s are the problem because we make our voices heard on talk radio…..?
 
Well I have news for Senator Lott, he’s a big part of the problem……..how in hell are American’s supposed to get their message communicated when Congress and the entire political apparatus ignores their constituents and the major media are bought and paid for by corporations, liberal left-wingers, and socialist???
 
Trent Lott is not the only elitist scum-bag in the US Senate that degrades, insults, and looks down on Americans…In reality, America views the “lords” of the senate that prance around the senate floor, slapping each other on the back, making grand pronouncements, passing gas in their ivory tower, accomplishing literally nothing but pain and confusion for America, as nothing more than a political body not worth warm spit.
 
In the final analysis, this Amnesty Bill that President Bush, Reid, Lott, Kennedy, Kyl, McCain and others are pushing is nothing short of a traitorous, treasonous guise to award law-breakers for political advantage which fosters a despicable action to penalize, demoralize, American citizens into submission of our rights to fight for what we believe is right, and give politicians the quasi-dictatorial powers they want to establish near total authority.
 
As for me, the political elite and their attitude can go to hell, as I will die for my right to call a radio station, write a letter criticizing American leadership, oppose those that illegally enter our nation, and tell them to get the hell out of America and come in the front door…if I had my way, the politicians would go with them…both political parties are “bottom feeders”.
 
I didn’t spend my time in the fox-hole for some ignorant politician to imply my voice is “a problem that has to be dealt with”.  I’m more than disgusted, mad, raging mad, at the arrogance of the President referring to many of us a “bigots”, “frightening America”, simply because we believe his Amnesty legislation is wrong, dead wrong. Trent Lott and others comment “damn tired of hearing from them” implying the blood, sacrifice, lives, and widows of America are not worthy to have a voice in what the blow-hards in Washington, D.C. are doing.
 
Apparently the elite in Washington, D.C. can’t, won’t  or don’t care about the pulse of America….well, this melting pot, called America is just about ready to “boil over” and when it does it will take more than political assurance to turn off the heat…
 
The leaders in Washington, D.C. better damn sure take note before it is too late.
 
Harry Riley hmriley@cox.net

Mr. President, Senators,

“President Bush is not giving up on his plan to legalize millions of illegal immigrants…”, headline after headline…what is not clear about NO?

Laws upon laws that deal with immigration. Specific immigration laws that deal with persons that sneak across United States borders, employer limitations, criminal penalties, et al. decade after decade. You have not executed laws on the book…….you have not done what you said you would do…we don’t trust you!

Yet, in 2007, you Mr. President and many Senators want to add more immigration laws to the books while enforcing none…just last year, 2006, an enormous legislative bill was passed that specifically deals with illegal aliens,security, border control, border fence, employer sanctions, all without serious action. And now, more laws on top of all the rest and you expect America to believe you have our best interest in mind??

The majority of Americans do not want more “politically correct” legislation. We see these actions purely aimed at securing advantages to politicians while heaping a gigantic tax burden, over-crowding of American schools, disaster on the highways, billions to pay for illegal alien medical treatment…the disaster is here, we will deal with it… turn off the faucet……stop the flow…”comprehensive immigration” is another camouflaged bureaucratic exercise with little to no chance of success…the only thing for sure is American’s will be the ones penalized and suffer for political incompetence.

Most of America now view politicians as an elite group with vision of total control, viewing citizen voices as simply an irritant that you are willing to put up with until we get tired and give up. This view is not idle thought among Americans…the thought of losing freedom as our founding fathers envisioned in very much on the minds of millions of patriotic citizens.

Just yesterday, as an example of the attitude in Washington, D.C., President Bush made this statement with regard to Attorney General Gonzales. “They can have their votes of no-confidence but it’s not going to make the determination about who serves in my government,” Bush said.” This attitude is prevalent in Washington, D.C…”my government”. Apparently President Bush is no longer just the administrative arm of American government, he’s the “government”. Arrogance within Washington, D.C. is near dictatorial stage…..

If we get to election in 2008, look out….I predict all hell will break loose…a nation of laws…what a crock of crap!

I for one am sick to death of lying, greedy, self-serving, ego-maniac talking heads in American government…I want no more illegal alien legislation, period. Get some backbone and take out the terrorists……..that’s priority number one…the troops are forgotten.